Joker: Folie à Deux: w/ Movies & Us on How it Might be Good?

Movies & Us: Podcast, Instagram, Threads

TV & Us: Podcast, Instagram, Threads

Jen & Sarah from the Movies & Us podcast join Melvin to discuss a surprise financial and critical flop of 2024, Joker: Folie à Deux! Is it really as bad as everyone says? At the very least there’s a LOT to talk about, and everyone takes turns diving deep into Todd Phillips’ follow-up to his billion-dollar success!

Topics:

• (PATREON EXCLUSIVE) 30 minutes discussing 2 favorites from 2024 and 1 favorite first-time watch for 2024, why they’re favorites, and a few honorable mentions at the end. (PATREON EXCLUSIVE)
• Recap: What do Jen, Sarah, and Melvin think of Joker (2019)?
• Sarah on Joker: Folie a Deux, “…anytime [Lady Gaga’s Harley Quinn] was at the center, I’m like “Okay! I’m happy!”.”.
• Jen feels the first film is ostensibly a better made product, but found this sequel was far more thought-provoking.
• Melvin outright liked the movie, saying that he could understand why people didn’t like the movie but had extreme difficulty seeing the film as “bad” or even “mid”.
• All three agree: Joker: Folie a Deux is prime for becoming a future cult classic.
• Discussing music, the usage of Arthur Fleck’s color scheme, embracing artistic flare at the expense of logic, and “build a mountain”.
• Turning trials of justice into entertainment.
• Does Arthur deserve to die?
• Talking Gary Puddles.
• Talking Lady Gaga’s “Lee Quinzel”.
• Discussing that controversial ending that left a lot of fans sour.
• Melvin, “It’s sad to see [Arthur] go.”

Recommendations:

• Anatomy of a Fall (2023) (Movie)
• Touch grass (no, literally!)
• Broad Church (2013-2017) (TV-Show)

Joker: Folie à Deux is Rated R for some strong violence, language throughout, some sexuality, and brief full nudity. It features Joaquin Phoenix, Lady Gaga, Brendan Gleeson, Catherine KEener, Zazie BEetz, Steve Coogan, Harry Lawtey, Leigh Gill, Ken Leung, Jacob Lofland, Bill Smitrovich, Sharon Washington, Alfred Rubin Thompson, and Connor Storrie. Directed by Todd Phillips. Joker: Folie à Deux is available here.

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Melvin Benson is the Founder, Editor-In-Chief, and Lead Host of Cinematic Doctrine. Whether it’s a movie, show, game, comic, or novel, it doesn’t matter. As long as it’s rich, he’s ready and willing to give it a try! His hope is to see King Jesus glorified as far as the east is from the west!

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